In a recent episode of Entangled Health, CIR President Lawrence Gasman moves beyond the boundaries of technology forecasting. Drawing on decades of experience modeling commercial outcomes across networking, photonics, AI, and quantum, Gasman opens with a grounded look at the near-term trajectory of quantum AI and robotics before the discussion takes a more philosophical turn. The episode traces his early encounters with students of Alan Turing and the mathematics of Godel, then ventures further into his own firsthand experiences with altered states of consciousness and what they revealed about the limits of a strictly materialist worldview. The conversation also examines why today’s large language models fall short of embodied intelligence and the lasting influence of Brian Josephson on the intersection of quantum mechanics and consciousness. You can listen to the full podcast here.
